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  11-5-17 Warwick Protest Photos

  by thebrokenkite in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  let the reader use discernment:.

  i was disfellowshipped in june of last year.

  while i've been awake for nearly a year, i still often feel groggy.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Hey brokenkite -- what a great synopsis. We need more writers with your talent, Please post more as we need fresh -- and talented -- writing.

  And kudos to the protesters. It took much effort just to make the trek.

  Len
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  "Armageddon is already here"; "the preaching work is done" -- rogue teachings in your congregation?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one of my jw sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-jw brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings.

  wild statements like our topic title, which i know are not supported at jw dot org, have been made to my non-jw son several times over the past year or so.

  while i haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations i tend to believe that the jw son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-jw since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the jws faith in wt teachings.. either my jw son is lying about what i would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain wt issues.. based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and wt organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.. what do you think?

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  FatFreek 2005

  One of my JW sons seems to be putting pressure on his non-JW brother apparently to scare him into accepting the troof and start coming to meetings. Wild statements like our topic title, which I know are not supported at JW dot ORG, have been made to my non-JW son several times over the past year or so. While I haven't been privy to the actual phone conversations I tend to believe that the JW son is being pressured by the local elders to cut ties with the non-JW since their conversations seem to degrade into arguments -- therefore tending to weaken the JWs faith in WT teachings.

  Either my JW son is lying about what I would call rogue teachings (and this would disappoint me greatly) or he is in some close knit clique in his congregation which has secretly chosen to go rogue on certain WT issues.

  Based on many of the recent posts here about drastic money and WT organization problems this could be a sign of pending splits of certain congregation members.

  What do you think?
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  Kleenex Head Covering

  by jwundubbed in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  growing up a woman in the cult was pretty bleak.

  most of the adult women i knew were either depressed sad women or an embarrassment to me.

  i was typical kid in that regard.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Sometimes a bit of childlike humor helps to put the society's ludicrous teachings into perspective. With apologies to Charles Monroe Schulz and his Peanuts characters, here goes.

  
  
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  Has Watchtower been hacked?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "there are two kinds of companies in the world: those that know they've been hacked, and those that have been hacked and don't yet know it.

  " robert hackett, fortune.

  but how about watchtower?

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  FatFreek 2005

  What makes you think they've never been hacked? If they were hacked, do you think they will make that public?

  While WT wouldn't make it public, the hacker would if he were a disgruntled exJW -- and I'd say that most exJWs fit that category.
  
  
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  Has Watchtower been hacked?

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  "there are two kinds of companies in the world: those that know they've been hacked, and those that have been hacked and don't yet know it.

  " robert hackett, fortune.

  but how about watchtower?

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  FatFreek 2005

  "There are two kinds of companies in the world: those that know they've been hacked, and those that have been hacked and don't yet know it." Robert Hackett, Fortune

  But how about Watchtower? Why has it been so immune to hacking?
  

  While JWleaks has been a great source of much confidential information, I have yet to see evidence of a leak of JW headquarters' level information, governing body private matters, worldwide and branch financials, etc.
  

  What surprises me is that while each year there are some 80,000 disgruntled people that exit the org by way of DF and DA, none from that group (provided that he/she has the technical expertise) has yet been motivated to perform a hack on WT networks that could expose what many on this forum already speculate about.
  

  What do you think?
  
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  Chapter 26 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

  by new boy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  we wanted sex too.

  so why did he get married?

  so they punishment you for leaving bethel and getting married?

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  FatFreek 2005

  Hey, Keith. I am enjoying your series greatly. However, I'm sure I've missed several along the way and would like to catch up. Have you posted an index of hyperlinks to all of them somewhere?

  Len

  ps: I've searched for "chapter new boy" but that only returns a few of your chapters, plus some irrelevant links.
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  Weekly Scripture Twist - aka the Watchtower Study

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “more than material assistance, refugees need spiritual and emotional support.

  (matt.

  4:4) elders can help by obtaining literature in the language of the refugees and by helping them contact brothers who speak their language.

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  FatFreek 2005

  A bit of humor may put the point across.

  
  
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  Interesting Take on Vows

  by konceptual99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so yesterday was the wt on vows.. it spoke, in part about two vows.

  the vow you make in dedication and the vow of marriage.

  here's how it describes them.. the most important vow that a christian can make is the one with which he dedicates his life to jehovah.

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  FatFreek 2005

  Clearly this is setting out the scene that it's perfectly OK for a young child, perhaps only around 10 years old or less, to get baptised - which by implication means dedication.

  Yes, less!!!!

  There are no less than two examples, WT yearbooks no less, of 6 year olds getting baptized. A 6 year old is much closer in age to an infant than to those adults getting married.
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  Animals As Food :giving Thanks to their Spirit as opposed to Thanking God For the Food provided.

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as i was cutting up our bbq chook in preperation for our meals i thought about some indigenous societies that just after a kill give thanks to the spirit of the animal for providing its life so he and his family can live.. i thought that seems to make a helluva lot more sense than giving thanks to an unseen god who is apparently indifferent to mankinds sufferings and is deaf to all the prayers that are offered up to him.. maybe we dont hunt for our food nowadays in the civilized world , but i think its food for thought..

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  FatFreek 2005

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  Completing the Scan of All WT Publications - Bibles List

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am working with paul grundy from jwfacts and with the administrator of avoidjw.org, and they are ok with me doing the work that i am doing right now, which is to try and complete, as much as possible, the availability of everything the wt has ever published, in pdf format.therefore, i will start listing in this thread what i have not been able to find anywhere online.

  please let me know where i can find the pdf's for the following:(now, i know that there are multiple versions of these and that there are some that seem the same but they are not.

  i am looking for the wt published versions of these publications.

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  FatFreek 2005

  I also have what you call the "fatboy" (this is the first I've heard that term but I guess it fits), the 1953-1960 published in 1963. This naïve young (age 23) man (that's me) has underlining in the preface that I now have no idea why I did it.

  With all those cross references, footnotes, etc. -- we all thought it was the ultimate in the technology of the day.

  I'm not sure what computer technology WT had in those days. The midwestern company that I worked for in 1963 would introduced us to labor reporting the following year, data that was fed via punch cards into an IBM 360.